E61 panorama sunroof issues

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E61 panorama sunroof issues Modification/improvement by disabling the tilting of the rear roof.

#1 TFH

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 03:12 PM

My 05-2005 E61 with pano sunroof had issues with closing the roof.
Although i cleaned and greased the railsystem and mechanism parts several times, the issue always re occurred after some time.

After analyzing the mechanism i concluded that the rear roof mechanism causes problems by its design.
This mechanism (a sliding carriage) is pushed and pulled by the main mechanism and seems to wear and jamm the total function of the roof.
Although it may sound dramatical, i just disabled the rear mechanism by cutting away a small plastic part of the carriage mechanism with a Dremel tool.

Then i reinitialised the roof and it is working fine now.
The front roof tilts and slides, opens and closes smoothly. The rear roof does not tilt anymore, of course.

(i can send some pictures if you like)

Rgds.

#2 mmitev

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 03:29 PM

Sounds very interesting TFH - please post pics of what exactly you've done.

It's a bit dramatic indeed, but if the only alternative is 2000 EUR for a new roof and presumably lots of other headache with the dealer, then why not.. It's not like we are damaging the sunroof - in fact, it's exactly the opposite.

And thanks for chiming in! :thumbsup:

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#3 TFH

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 04:41 PM

mmitev, on 05 April 2010 - 03:29 PM, said:

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Sunroof repair.pdf (586.31K)
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#4 TFH

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 04:43 PM

I have attached a pdf file which explains the steps. This should work for 5 series touring, X3 and X5.

Let me know if you have questions.

#5 frost015

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 02:26 AM

Brilliant !

I also have an 05 E61 (525d manual), and have had to live with the rear panoramic roof section always jamming in the open position on tilt (rear panel left side refusing to drop down). I manage to manual push this back (not easy) with a long thin screwdriver when needed (when I push the tilt button by mistake) and have been living without tilt ever since.

Sounds like I can just do this mod and still have access to front section tilt ...

Will wait a few weeks and monitor this thread to see if anyone has a better solution to the jamming rear panel (yes, have greased, cleaned, etc)..

Thanks ...

#6 mmitev

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 01:45 PM

TFH, on 09 April 2010 - 04:43 PM, said:

I have attached a pdf file which explains the steps. This should work for 5 series touring, X3 and X5.

Let me know if you have questions.

Thanks - really professional!

#7 lallevihtinen

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 04:13 PM

I followed your instructions and it worked like a charm! You all should try it, it really did the trick.
Thanks for the instructions!

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 11:50 AM

I just today had a second seal replaced on mine ( #2 in less than 6 months)the front 2 corners were bulging up and the adhesive used had failed since they put it in when it was too cold.

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#9 Jaap

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 04:18 PM

Hi,

First post.
Carried out the modification this afternoon, it's easy. Roof now works perfectly!

Many thanks TFH for this brilliant idea and perfect instructions.

This is a great forum.

Regards,
Jaap

#10 PMCP

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 05:36 AM

Hi I am thinking about doing this on my X5 - the rear roof is stuck in the open tilt position - do you know how I could get it closed until I have time to do the repair?

Does the rear roof still slide open after your repair?

Thanks

Paul

#11 trevorken

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 11:06 AM

If the rear part of the roof slides back, then the system is different from the one in the E61.
Here the rear part only tilts up, it does not move backwards.

PMCP, on 06 June 2010 - 05:36 AM, said:

#12 gbr

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 08:58 AM

PMCP, on 06 June 2010 - 05:36 AM, said:

Open the internal cover (roofliner) completely.
Look for the small hole in the wedge shaped driver at the rear ends of the slider mechanisms. This wedge forces the rear glass to tilt.
Try partially inserting the tip of a long screw driver into the hole and tapping towards the rear. The wedge should slide towards the rear and the glass lowers. This needs to be repeated alternating left and right sides until the glass is down.

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 10:36 AM

As i get many questions how to close the rear roof first, i have updated my file with the closing procedure.
See attachment version 2.

Regards
TFH

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 10:37 AM

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#15 frost015

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Posted 11 July 2010 - 12:19 AM

I still have the same issue (stuck rear roof when in tilt position) ...

Just to be completely clear before I do this procedure (and I think this is the same question as BMW X5 previously) ..

Does the rear roof still slide open after this modification / repair ? (Quite happy to dissable the tilt on the rear, but I do like to get the full sliding mega-opening of the roof)...

Thanks,

Ian