[Patrick E61]

Kuul4, on 13 March 2010 - 03:58 PM, said:

No, hyvähän olisi kommunikoida niin, että suurin osa suunilleen ymmärtäisi.. Am I right?

Kyl kyl.

[Patrick E61]

jdoe1, on 14 March 2010 - 06:56 AM, said:

I just think it's immensely disrespectful is all.
The least one can do is make some sort of effort to speak/write the language of the place you are in, doesn't matter what that language is or if it's a real or virtual place.

I'm sure you agree with that even if you don't feel as strongly about it as I do.

I wholeheartedly disagree with you!

And I suspect that since we have some E61 members here from France and Belgium, he might even get an answer to his question.

No need to feel offended just because you don't speak other languages...

[tonymac]

This forum is not a physical place... It is a virtual place that spans the world. There are people from all over the place here. There is even an Hong Kong E60 sub-Forum made by the members here. Regardless of what you think or feel, he got his answer because that is what we do. We give and receive help. Throughout the entire forum there are people speaking in their native tongue (some in their second or third language), should they stop too?

I think it is fine. If someone can respond back in his/her dialect, so be it. If not, I guarantee someone will try. I don't speak any of the languages (besides english) that were brought up in this Topic, yet, I tried to respond. I say that to say, if you feel excluded, join in. It is no big deal.

One big happy family

[narvselius]

Agree with Tonymac - I would post a question in Swedish on this forum I would of course have understand that it would limit the number of responses, but it would not be done as a disregard of English as Lingua Franca.

Although - I would have started with an excuse that the post will not be in English, as a respect to other forum members.

[ron_cb550]

jdoe1, on 14 March 2010 - 06:56 AM, said:

I just think it's immensely disrespectful is all.
The least one can do is make some sort of effort to speak/write the language of the place you are in, doesn't matter what that language is or if it's a real or virtual place.

I'm sure you agree with that even if you don't feel as strongly about it as I do.

1/10



*in a Seinfeld voice*
what's the deeeal with cultural intolerance?

diversity? not if jdoe1 has anything to say about it!!

[jdoe1]

I'm fluid in 5 languages are pretty good at a few others. Not Chinese though, that's a bit too hard-core.

You will notice that the replies above — except the ones meant to be funny — are all in english, even by people who's native tongue is not english. It's what respectful people do.

When in Rome, do as the Romans.

This is no different from those fat Texans that go on a trip to Europe and respond by shouting english at the dumb Italian waiter that doesn't understand English rather than making an effort to try and order in Italian.

Or the fat Russians that abuse poor Japanese waiters for not speaking Russian.

As for the Hong-Kong forum. That would only be comparable if Benoit posted in the French forum.

[tonymac]

Only, he did not yell, or say anything offensive....

Read through this one... http://forums.5serie...1

Either way, I don't really care at all what you think. I was just trying to help you see things a little more clear. Or at least in a different light.

Enjoy the forums.

[StreetPro]

vzhledem k tomu, že část e60 se vyrábí v ČR, mělo by se zde mluvit i česky :-)

[tonymac]

I don't mind lol. Czech is alright with me.

[ivano]

che cazzo state dicendo

I think it's ok to write in a foreign language as long as he can't speak english.

As a few people said, the internet starts with www - world wide web...

[Kell]

On a forum like this, I'm guessing the only common language is English, but that doesn't mean that everyone should post in English. I have schoolboy French at best, so I just wouldn't be able to answer the question.

I don't think it's disrespectful to post in French, but, as said above, the OP will just have to accept that they will get fewer responses.

I actually appreciate the fact that most members post in ENglish for us dumb Brits that never felt the need to learn another language.

[bertolli]

I have no issues either with someone posting a topic/question in their own language, but only if they can't write English. Reason I say this is that a forum enables all users to search on discussed topics which might be interesting for them or it enables them to add their experiences to existing topics. Problem is that if something is written in a non-English the content of that topic will become completely useless for members who don't understand French, German, Dutch, Russian, Italian, Swahili or even Esperanto (yes yes)

As such I consider it more social to write in English if you can. Even if it means a bit more effort for users who don't use English as their native language (like me)

[narvselius]

Kuul4, on 13 March 2010 - 03:58 PM, said:

No, hyvähän olisi kommunikoida niin, että suurin osa suunilleen ymmärtäisi.. Am I right?

Kunde inte sagt det bättre själv!

[macjager]

I can read 3 languages, I can speak 3 languages, I can write well in one language, acceptably in another language, and not at all in the third...and will be learning a fourth language soon. I find that sometimes when a person asks a question in their second or third language, they massacre it so much that the poster does not get the message or question across. So, as noted above, you may get fewer answers, but they may be more accurate, (not correct just accurate... ) if you post in your first language. In this day and age when people are ready to destroy each other for looking different or being from a different tribe or religion, the last place that you want any acrimony or strife, is on a forum which is designed for sharing information...if you want to argue or diss people for not using "the Queen's English" then go to the argument forms...or the I don't like you because you don't speak my language so you are not as worthy as me to post anything here forums...see Monty Python for further examples of sillyness...

BTW, by this summer, I will be trying to learn Hungarian...are there any members that speak and write magyar...


cheers

george

[jdoe1]

macjager, on 16 March 2010 - 04:16 PM, said:

or the I don't like you because you don't speak my language so you are not as worthy as me to post anything here forums...

Does not apply since English is not my native/first language and I can read/write French just fine. The specific language doesn't matter. It would be no different if one posted in English on a French forum or tried to order a drink in English in a bar in Nice.

macjager, on 16 March 2010 - 04:16 PM, said:

In this day and age when people are ready to destroy each other for looking different or being from a different tribe or religion

Barring economic motives, most tribes and religions will accommodate any individual that makes an effort.

macjager, on 16 March 2010 - 04:16 PM, said:

I find that sometimes when a person asks a question in their second or third language, they massacre it so much that the poster does not get the message or question across

That's ok, they have to start somewhere and some languages are quite difficult. I'm sure Hungarians will appreciate your efforts to speak Magyar, even if you rape the language at first.