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What is Logic7?
Logic7 is BMW's optional professional HiFi stereo system which is an enormous upgrade to the standard stereo. Logic7 is a special digital audio signal processing mode for two-channel stereo signals and multi-channel multimedia signals. The objective of Logic7 is to create an experience in sound as true to the original as possible for all listeners within the car. The Logic7 system is comprised of four tweeters in the mirror triangles and in the parcel shelf, one 100 mm conical subwoofer serving as the central loudspeaker in the middle of the instrument cluster, four 100 mm conical subwoofers in the doors, two 100 mm conical subwooders in the parcel shelf, and two 210 mm central base loudspeakers beneath the front seats. A total of 13 speakers.
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Posted 05 August 2004 - 07:45 PM
Thanks,
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Sport Package, Logic7, Comfort Seats, NAV, PDC, Cold Weather Package, Sun Shades, Fold Down & Heated Rear Seats, Bluetooth, MP3 Playback
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2004 Mystic Blue 545i, Steptronic, Gray Leather Interior with Anthracite Maple Wood Trim, January 2004 Build, CIP 27.1
Sport Package, Logic7, Comfort Seats, NAV, PDC, Cold Weather Package, Sun Shades, Fold Down & Heated Rear Seats, Bluetooth, MP3 Playback
Mods: M-Aerodynamic Package, 19" Style #166 M5 Rims: 245/35/19 Front & 275/30/19 Rear, Hard-Wired V1, PIAA 4700K Fog Lights, AngeliBright v2.0 White Angel Eyes
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Posted 07 August 2004 - 09:56 AM
Iceman, on Aug 7 2004, 08:16 AM, said:
It's the best sound system I've ever had in a car!
I'm curious how it is compared to a Mark Levinson audiosystem in a Lexus. I heard that once and it sounded awesome. I was very impressed. My hope is that the logic7 in my new car will sound something like that!
Since 19 august 2004: 530i High Executive, Silvergray with beige interior, Popular wood, Servotronic, Sportssuspension, electric foldable and dimmed mirrors, dimmed interior mirror, pappelmaser braun wood, cupholders, styling 123 18" wheels, Logic 7, Steptronic, alarm class 3, electric sunscreen in the rear and suncreens for sidewindows, Comfort seats, heated seats, Xenon with headlightwashers, Adaptive corner lights ALC, Advanced airconditioning, lightpackage, Nav Pro, 6 cd changer, side airbags rearseats, bluetooth siemens S55, chrome kidneys, gearlever with wood, green band on windshield, voicerecognition retrofitted, waiting for Hobi on the trunkrelease button retrofit!.
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Posted 07 August 2004 - 09:58 AM
Lomag, on Aug 5 2004, 06:45 PM, said:
one 100 mm conical subwoofer serving as the central loudspeaker in the middle of the instrument cluster, four 100 mm conical subwoofers in the doors, two 100 mm conical subwooders in the parcel shelf,
100mm=about 4 inches. These are the mid-range speakers.
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Posted 08 August 2004 - 03:39 AM
Found some info:
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BMW_World___LOGIC7_Sound.pdf (70.01K)
Number of downloads: 2972
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MODS: ACS front lip, M rear bumper, M sideskirts, M5 mirrors, M5 rear spoiler, M5 boot finisher, M5 anti sway bars, M5 instrument cluster, M5 shifter kit, M5 Big Brake Kit, SMG paddle kit, custom Ruthenium Pearl interior trims, 50% front & 35% rear tint, high gloss shadowline, alu pedal set, rear DVD LCD, LCI front & rear light retrofit, LED front, side indicators & no. plate, DME, Eibach prokit, Goodridge brake lines, Redstuff brake pads (rear), K&N air filter, Sprintbooster, Supersprint exhaust
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MODS: ACS front lip, M rear bumper, M sideskirts, M5 mirrors, M5 rear spoiler, M5 boot finisher, M5 anti sway bars, M5 instrument cluster, M5 shifter kit, M5 Big Brake Kit, SMG paddle kit, custom Ruthenium Pearl interior trims, 50% front & 35% rear tint, high gloss shadowline, alu pedal set, rear DVD LCD, LCI front & rear light retrofit, LED front, side indicators & no. plate, DME, Eibach prokit, Goodridge brake lines, Redstuff brake pads (rear), K&N air filter, Sprintbooster, Supersprint exhaust
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Posted 08 August 2004 - 03:55 AM
Very interesting find and nice write up!
Since 19 august 2004: 530i High Executive, Silvergray with beige interior, Popular wood, Servotronic, Sportssuspension, electric foldable and dimmed mirrors, dimmed interior mirror, pappelmaser braun wood, cupholders, styling 123 18" wheels, Logic 7, Steptronic, alarm class 3, electric sunscreen in the rear and suncreens for sidewindows, Comfort seats, heated seats, Xenon with headlightwashers, Adaptive corner lights ALC, Advanced airconditioning, lightpackage, Nav Pro, 6 cd changer, side airbags rearseats, bluetooth siemens S55, chrome kidneys, gearlever with wood, green band on windshield, voicerecognition retrofitted, waiting for Hobi on the trunkrelease button retrofit!.
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Posted 08 August 2004 - 05:26 AM
Additional information on how Logic7 works can be found in the BMW Technology Guide.
2008 Alpine White 550i w/Sport Package, Sport Automatic Transmission, Ventilated Comfort Seats in Beige Nasca Leather, Dark Poplar Wood, NAV, HUD, Active Steering, Comfort Access, Night Vision, Lane Deviation Warning, Active Cruise Control, Cold-Weather Package, Heated Rear Seats, Folding Rear Seats, Rear Sunshades, Rear Air Bags, Logic 7, HD Radio, Sirius Satellite Radio, iPod/USB Adapter. Build completed June 4, 2007. Current CIP/Progman: 25.01 27.02 30.02 Current ISTA/P: 2.34.2 Pictures are here.
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Posted 24 August 2004 - 11:10 AM
Look here ... 
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Posted 15 November 2004 - 07:29 AM
Perhaps this was already extensively discussed, and if so I'm sorry. I didn't get a good hit in search. Is it possible to add Logic 7 after delivery? The simple answer is probably no, but are there ways of swapping the stereo out?
I do not have Nav. I do have Sirius and it sounds awesome. :winkcool:
I do not have Nav. I do have Sirius and it sounds awesome. :winkcool:
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Posted 16 November 2004 - 12:51 AM
Regret for not getting the Logic7. ARGGHH! 
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Posted 22 August 2005 - 10:01 AM
soc_fans, on Nov 16 2004, 07:51 AM, said:
Regret for not getting the Logic7. ARGGHH!
Is the Logic7 that much better? Is it worth $1800 bucks??? What I absolutely hate is the placement of the changer - deep inside the glove box. You CAN'T swap it/load it or do anything from the driver's side. You pretty much have to be out of the car or contort yourself on the passenger side to insert the cassette. Why can't it be on the dash like on the 7er?
Also, a car is about one of the worst listening environments there are with the road noise and all the other "noise generators" in a driving environment. Why would one buy a surround sound system that costs that much and put it in a car?
How about after-market systems - is that a viable option? Is there something comparable - with the cassette elsewhere - that can be retrofitted? I know, a cassette in the trunk is inaccessible from the driver's side, but....
Can someone convince me that the Logic7 is the way to go? I mean, it's the ONLY option other than the standard stereo and the one-disk-at-a-time load on the dash. Is the standard stereo that bad? Is it bad at all? Is it acceptable?
Thanks!
Santiago.
MY06 550i, Mystic Blue Metallic, Auburn and black inside, 6-speed manual, Comfort Access, Comfort Seats, Sports and Cold Weather Packages, NAV, HUD, Logic-7, M-Aero kit and several M-accessories inside. Took delivery Wednesday, 1 February 2006. AWESOME!!!
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Posted 22 August 2005 - 10:10 AM
santiago fonseca, on Aug 22 2005, 11:01 AM, said:
Is the Logic7 that much better? Is it worth $1800 bucks??? What I absolutely hate is the placement of the changer - deep inside the glove box. You CAN'T swap it/load it or do anything from the driver's side. You pretty much have to be out of the car or contort yourself on the passenger side to insert the cassette. Why can't it be on the dash like on the 7er?
Also, a car is about one of the worst listening environments there are with the road noise and all the other "noise generators" in a driving environment. Why would one buy a surround sound system that costs that much and put it in a car?
How about after-market systems - is that a viable option? Is there something comparable - with the cassette elsewhere - that can be retrofitted? I know, a cassette in the trunk is inaccessible from the driver's side, but....
Can someone convince me that the Logic7 is the way to go? I mean, it's the ONLY option other than the standard stereo and the one-disk-at-a-time load on the dash. Is the standard stereo that bad? Is it bad at all? Is it acceptable?
Thanks!
Santiago.
Also, a car is about one of the worst listening environments there are with the road noise and all the other "noise generators" in a driving environment. Why would one buy a surround sound system that costs that much and put it in a car?
How about after-market systems - is that a viable option? Is there something comparable - with the cassette elsewhere - that can be retrofitted? I know, a cassette in the trunk is inaccessible from the driver's side, but....
Can someone convince me that the Logic7 is the way to go? I mean, it's the ONLY option other than the standard stereo and the one-disk-at-a-time load on the dash. Is the standard stereo that bad? Is it bad at all? Is it acceptable?
Thanks!
Santiago.
Many of your questions do not yield clear, "yes or no" answers since discussing sound systems is a subjective topic that relies heavily on individual opinions.
That said, some extensive discussions and opinions can be found in the following threads:
http://forums.e60.ne...showtopic=10845
http://forums.e60.ne...showtopic=10956
http://forums.e60.ne...showtopic=14774
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Posted 23 August 2005 - 10:15 AM
Rudy, on Aug 22 2005, 05:10 PM, said:
santiago fonseca, on Aug 22 2005, 11:01 AM, said:
Is the Logic7 that much better? Is it worth $1800 bucks??? What I absolutely hate is the placement of the changer - deep inside the glove box. You CAN'T swap it/load it or do anything from the driver's side. You pretty much have to be out of the car or contort yourself on the passenger side to insert the cassette. Why can't it be on the dash like on the 7er?
Also, a car is about one of the worst listening environments there are with the road noise and all the other "noise generators" in a driving environment. Why would one buy a surround sound system that costs that much and put it in a car?
How about after-market systems - is that a viable option? Is there something comparable - with the cassette elsewhere - that can be retrofitted? I know, a cassette in the trunk is inaccessible from the driver's side, but....
Can someone convince me that the Logic7 is the way to go? I mean, it's the ONLY option other than the standard stereo and the one-disk-at-a-time load on the dash. Is the standard stereo that bad? Is it bad at all? Is it acceptable?
Thanks!
Santiago.
Also, a car is about one of the worst listening environments there are with the road noise and all the other "noise generators" in a driving environment. Why would one buy a surround sound system that costs that much and put it in a car?
How about after-market systems - is that a viable option? Is there something comparable - with the cassette elsewhere - that can be retrofitted? I know, a cassette in the trunk is inaccessible from the driver's side, but....
Can someone convince me that the Logic7 is the way to go? I mean, it's the ONLY option other than the standard stereo and the one-disk-at-a-time load on the dash. Is the standard stereo that bad? Is it bad at all? Is it acceptable?
Thanks!
Santiago.
Many of your questions do not yield clear, "yes or no" answers since discussing sound systems is a subjective topic that relies heavily on individual opinions.
That said, some extensive discussions and opinions can be found in the following threads:
http://forums.e60.ne...showtopic=10845
http://forums.e60.ne...showtopic=10956
http://forums.e60.ne...showtopic=14774
Rudy, I appreciate the links. I'll think about it. Hopefully I'll be able to test drive a car with it. You're right, I'll either like it or not care to pay that much for it. It's all subjective and I see most of you out there love it - but $1800 for a CD changer??? What else does it do?
About the pictures of your car. White is beautiful and it only cements the notion in my head that a light colored E60 shows off so much better than a dark one. There are many posts about color choices and as I commented one day, I was almost all set in ordering a blue (of some kind) or black until I saw two E60s, parked one behind the other on the street and I could see both from the side. One was black and the other silver - don't know which silver - and the silver showed so much more detail and contrast. The black one was beautiful as well, but it appeared as a single, fat, black mass without much definition. The silver on the other hand was so defined - the windows, the wheels/tires, the shark antenna, the satin trim (which is totally lost on the the dark-colored cars), etc. The silver car also looked longer and lower. The E60 looks fat in a dark color. I just have to see what interior/trim colors are "allowed" with silver so I can make up my mind.
I think I'll get one of the silver colors when the 550i comes out. I'm holding out for the 6 speed and here in Germany I can order all kinds of goodies right off the showroom.
Anyway, I'll seriously consider the Logic7, but is there an after-market alternative?
Regards,
S.
MY06 550i, Mystic Blue Metallic, Auburn and black inside, 6-speed manual, Comfort Access, Comfort Seats, Sports and Cold Weather Packages, NAV, HUD, Logic-7, M-Aero kit and several M-accessories inside. Took delivery Wednesday, 1 February 2006. AWESOME!!!
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Posted 23 August 2005 - 10:52 AM
Thanks for the kind words about my car and color choice. Obviously, I agree! 
In a couple of the links I gave you earlier, there were some posts from people who did a custom audio install on their cars. Merzbow is one member who did something custom but I can't remember the names of other members who took the plunge.
Hopefully, someone else can chime in to remind us who did an aftermarket install (or you could search the forum database, etc.).
Good luck!
In a couple of the links I gave you earlier, there were some posts from people who did a custom audio install on their cars. Merzbow is one member who did something custom but I can't remember the names of other members who took the plunge.
Hopefully, someone else can chime in to remind us who did an aftermarket install (or you could search the forum database, etc.).
Good luck!
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Posted 23 August 2005 - 02:03 PM
santiago fonseca, on Aug 23 2005, 05:15 PM, said:
Hopefully I'll be able to test drive a car with it.
You have to experience it yourself!
There is a good oportunity in September: IAA.
We have a little E60.net meet & greet and go to the Ring afterwards for a couple laps. You will be able to see all different options and the performance of the different engines...
